Reporting for Roll Call -=15:05Hrs -   6-26-13
Hi LT:
Will attempt to catch up today. Missed Mon. due to   one of those nuisance cold bugs which had settled in my upper bronchial area.   So...not AWOL....just short time out for SICK CALL.
Re: Your Rule #5 - The VA is not the enemy(even if   it just often feels that way!) On the whole I'll go along with that, but,   it still has a long way to go before we can say it is  "outcome"   oriented...instead of fixated on "crocheting" procedudres.That's not to say it   isn't filled with dedicated and well-meaning people, many fellow veterans, but   they're constrained in their desire to help and do the right thing, by a   "legalistic" set of rules and regulations... which can be squarely laid back   at...Congress' door...not the VA's. Of course there's the other, and inherent,   factor related to the nature of any bureaucracy which, over time...tends to   fossilize its SOPs. 
But that's the way things are, so, whatever we do   on this -front end- to help others learn how to maneuver successully through the   complexities imposed by the "system", is good. Our analogy of it being like a   mine field, and we're just trying to perceive and avoid the mines as we go   through it...is as apt as it gets. Yet we should not also overlook any   opportunities or means to pressure Congress about such things. I'll be blunt   here...it is always ready and willing to send our troops into harms way, but,   when it comes time to pay the butcher's bill for such military forays...it's   very reluctant to honor those obligations. And it's that reluctance by   Congress which drives how the VA deals with claims,etc. In my view, every   parent, spouse, or any other relative or citizen, who has, or   knows, someone serving our country should be pounding and their   Representatives and Senators doors demanding their support to make things   right...so we don't have the kinds of backlogs and delays like we have today. I   would also think that every veterans organization should be out there screaming   bloody hell too. Hmm...how many do you think really are doing that? Good   question. Like we've said before...everyone supports our troops...till they have   the gall to come marching home(even if they're gimping along)...instead of in a   flag-draped box. It's nice to know we've all served such a grateful nation.   
Such a viewpoint probably makes me into a   full-blown "heretic". So be it! Let them prove me wrong by what they do..not   what they say (like I've said, I'm from Missouri...so I'll believe them only   when they have...shown us).
Re: A soldier's last words. Truly sad, sad, sad.   The worse part about it is... he's not a lone case. He was obiviously very   conflicted about some of the things he was forced to participate in. All that on   top of his physical wounds...is as horrendous as it gets. The most gut-wrenching   part of his letter is the way he feels  that his physical and emotional   miseries are his fault, and how, his suicide, will leave both his family   and the world...better off. Even more appalling is the apparent calm   and rational tone of how he analyzed his situation to come to his   conclusion. It was not just because of desparation...it sounds like he had   convinced himself that self-sacrifice was the only honorable thing left for   him to do under such circumstances. It speaks volumes about the real   character of most of our service members. Truly, the pride of our country. They   deserve mcuh better than this.
Re: Okay...back to our Cherry Troop...what we've   shown him so far is...don't expect someone else to take the initiative and give   you the information you need. You have to get it yourself. To summarize, right   at discharge, go get that VA card, ask for a primary care physician, make and   keep that first appointment with him/her. Here's the key at this point:   
a)Ask for a referral for a complete Mental   Health evaluation, 
b)Concurrently, request a complete head to toe   physical, so there is an immediate record of your combined physcal and   emotional existing condition. 
c)If you were on the ground where there was any use   of Agent Orange, Depleted Uranium, or other toxins, request the   right set of blood tests for any of these. If you were exposed, those tests   will show it. Keep in mind, it's not about how, or when...but that you   were...exposed...and those test will either support that or not. This is   important because, their effects are not always early...but develope later   on....sometimes much later..those test results will be difficult to ignore   or discount...when the need arises. 
Okay, LT...am I more or less on target with that   summary? Hope so, because I'm really interested now in getting into what   supporting documentation  is necessary, and how that's gotten   together.
Have to break off for today...some of that medicine   is making me go see a dog about a fire hydrant.
CENTURION   
 
Reporting for ROLL CALL 1:22PM June 27, 2013
ReplyDeleteOK, Captain, your summary is pretty right on. And let's make Step 4 a request for a mental examination. All who are reading this need to understand that when Uncle Sam takes you into the military service, they give you a total physical. When you are discharged, then it is your responsibility to go through the Steps here at ROLL CALL. Uncle Sam is not going to prepare you for this like we are doing here on ROLL CALL.
Most Cherry Troops upon discharge charge in the other direction, a 180 degree turn, from the branch of military service they were in. Unfortunately, no one is preparing them for the reality of 'Civilian Life' like we are doing here on ROLL CALL. So, the Cherry Troop typically drifts further and further away from the military until one year drifts into the other, and before he/she knows it, they are 20 years down the road. This is exactly the 'plan' of the VA and our government. The further down that road the more data that is lost or forgotten.
I want to make it clear here that I am not suggesting anyone reading this make a 'claim' with the VA. What I am saying is that by following the Rules and Steps here on ROLL CALL, one is preparing for any medical problems, whether physical or mental, down the road of life. And I am not in the mood to 'tell war stories' right now about those individuals I know, including myself, who have been 'screwed' by the VA's plan, and this system we call 'The American Government'. Believe me, if you think Uncle Sam is going to take care of you for the wounds you have suffered in the military, you are wrong. And many before you with the same faith are now dead wrong. You have to cover your own 6. If you do not follow the Rules and Steps here on ROLL CALL, and you come back to the VA years later for help, they are going to treat you like something that has fallen out of a street walkers pants. And, they are going to blame you. Not them.
So, in summary, cover your own ass! I'm going to call that Rule 6 - Cover Your Own 6